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	<title>Comments on: Let this be a lesson to you Clive&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/let-this-be-a-lesson-to-you-clive/screenwriting/2007/04/30/comment-page-1/#comment-4624</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 05:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was the only one with fantasies like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was the only one with fantasies like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Wesley Hardin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Wesley Hardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Unk&#039;s had some experience in this arena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Unk&#8217;s had some experience in this arena.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call on the adams apple, that way I can be sure that I never accidentally end up with a lady! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call on the adams apple, that way I can be sure that I never accidentally end up with a lady! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Unk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann,

Maybe we can get you hooked up...

Clive,

Just be sure to feel for the adam&#039;s apple or whatever apple makes you feel secure. LOL.

MaryAn,

You could be right...

Laura,

Are you subscribing to the correct feed url? There&#039;s two you can use:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/UnknownScreenwriter
http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/feed/

Moviequill,

Hmmm. You just peeled back a layer... LOL.

Unk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>Maybe we can get you hooked up&#8230;</p>
<p>Clive,</p>
<p>Just be sure to feel for the adam&#8217;s apple or whatever apple makes you feel secure. LOL.</p>
<p>MaryAn,</p>
<p>You could be right&#8230;</p>
<p>Laura,</p>
<p>Are you subscribing to the correct feed url? There&#8217;s two you can use:</p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/UnknownScreenwriter" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/UnknownScreenwriter</a><br />
<a href="http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/feed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/feed/</a></p>
<p>Moviequill,</p>
<p>Hmmm. You just peeled back a layer&#8230; LOL.</p>
<p>Unk</p>
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		<title>By: Moviequill</title>
		<link>http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/let-this-be-a-lesson-to-you-clive/screenwriting/2007/04/30/comment-page-1/#comment-4577</link>
		<dc:creator>Moviequill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fishnets were a nice touch... real nice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fishnets were a nice touch&#8230; real nice</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Deerfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Deerfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried subscribing to the RSS feed - and it just shows up as empty. Not sure why it doesn&#039;t seem to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried subscribing to the RSS feed &#8211; and it just shows up as empty. Not sure why it doesn&#8217;t seem to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, just got the film to play after half a day of messing about.

And, I also worked out the lesson - I&#039;d forgotten I&#039;d told you I was back out dating again! LMAO

Thanks for the heads up! 

And after those incidents in Rio we both know I need telling more than once, you did warn me and I didn&#039;t listen.

By the way, I really liked the way they handled the effects in this movie, even if the non-principle acting sucked ass. I wish someone had told Mark the only way to sell comedy is to play it straight. And don&#039;t even get me started on the soundtrack! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, just got the film to play after half a day of messing about.</p>
<p>And, I also worked out the lesson &#8211; I&#8217;d forgotten I&#8217;d told you I was back out dating again! LMAO</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up! </p>
<p>And after those incidents in Rio we both know I need telling more than once, you did warn me and I didn&#8217;t listen.</p>
<p>By the way, I really liked the way they handled the effects in this movie, even if the non-principle acting sucked ass. I wish someone had told Mark the only way to sell comedy is to play it straight. And don&#8217;t even get me started on the soundtrack! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait. So that&#039;s NOT John Travolta playing Edna Turnblatt in Hairspray?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. So that&#8217;s NOT John Travolta playing Edna Turnblatt in Hairspray?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Wesley Hardin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Wesley Hardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is this payback for me revealing your secret identity as a four hundred pound, tattooed woman, living in a trailer park in Orlando?&lt;/i&gt;

I thought that was Mystery Man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is this payback for me revealing your secret identity as a four hundred pound, tattooed woman, living in a trailer park in Orlando?</i></p>
<p>I thought that was Mystery Man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 11:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm - the film doesn&#039;t play on any of my browsers! But I got the jist from the comments. Woman strips and the payoff is it&#039;s revealed that she&#039;s a fat dude in a girl suit (or something like that!) Am I close?

No, Ann I didn&#039;t make this one! More&#039;s the pity -- my short suck!

But you know me Unk, I never learn anything! LOL

The truth is this doesn&#039;t really dent my position, because Mark who made this realized something that I worked out years ago, the best shorts are both very short and essentially gags with a simple set up and a payoff.

One of very few other shorts I really admire is a film I saw about eight years ago, where Ewan McGreggor is walking on a beach, he sees a cream cake sitting on the sand -- it&#039;s pristine, still in it&#039;s wrapper, he examines it and decides as no one is looking he&#039;ll take a bite. The second he does, a huge hook is pulled though his mouth and he&#039;s dragged into the sea on the end of a fishing line. There&#039;s no dialogue, no character development, just a set up and a clever payoff.

My basic premise that short films by and large suck and also don&#039;t prepare people for writing features I think still stands. Clever shorts like these are definitely in the minority.

But maybe that wasn&#039;t the lesson! Is this payback for me revealing your secret identity as a four hundred pound, tattooed woman, living in a trailer park in Orlando? LOL

Maybe there&#039;s more going on here than I first realized, is that you acting for the payoff? LMAO

But seriously, like I said in the rant on my site, I&#039;d like to see examples of good shorts -- I&#039;d like to be proved wrong. Keep them coming... no pun intended.

Of course the other lesson I might be supposed to take from this is you could just be reminding me that you have photos of me with the Brazilian Ladyboy! (I mean it&#039;s a mistake anyone could make... and I you shouldn&#039;t read anything into the fact me and Miguel still exchange the occasional email!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8211; the film doesn&#8217;t play on any of my browsers! But I got the jist from the comments. Woman strips and the payoff is it&#8217;s revealed that she&#8217;s a fat dude in a girl suit (or something like that!) Am I close?</p>
<p>No, Ann I didn&#8217;t make this one! More&#8217;s the pity &#8212; my short suck!</p>
<p>But you know me Unk, I never learn anything! LOL</p>
<p>The truth is this doesn&#8217;t really dent my position, because Mark who made this realized something that I worked out years ago, the best shorts are both very short and essentially gags with a simple set up and a payoff.</p>
<p>One of very few other shorts I really admire is a film I saw about eight years ago, where Ewan McGreggor is walking on a beach, he sees a cream cake sitting on the sand &#8212; it&#8217;s pristine, still in it&#8217;s wrapper, he examines it and decides as no one is looking he&#8217;ll take a bite. The second he does, a huge hook is pulled though his mouth and he&#8217;s dragged into the sea on the end of a fishing line. There&#8217;s no dialogue, no character development, just a set up and a clever payoff.</p>
<p>My basic premise that short films by and large suck and also don&#8217;t prepare people for writing features I think still stands. Clever shorts like these are definitely in the minority.</p>
<p>But maybe that wasn&#8217;t the lesson! Is this payback for me revealing your secret identity as a four hundred pound, tattooed woman, living in a trailer park in Orlando? LOL</p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s more going on here than I first realized, is that you acting for the payoff? LMAO</p>
<p>But seriously, like I said in the rant on my site, I&#8217;d like to see examples of good shorts &#8212; I&#8217;d like to be proved wrong. Keep them coming&#8230; no pun intended.</p>
<p>Of course the other lesson I might be supposed to take from this is you could just be reminding me that you have photos of me with the Brazilian Ladyboy! (I mean it&#8217;s a mistake anyone could make&#8230; and I you shouldn&#8217;t read anything into the fact me and Miguel still exchange the occasional email!)</p>
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