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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of the agonisers - I spend ages searching for the right name for characters, and it is much more like a search than &quot;thinking up&quot;. It&#039;s as if the character already knows his or her name, and I just have to work it out. When I discover it, then we are good to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the agonisers &#8211; I spend ages searching for the right name for characters, and it is much more like a search than &#8220;thinking up&#8221;. It&#8217;s as if the character already knows his or her name, and I just have to work it out. When I discover it, then we are good to go.</p>
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		<title>By: NZ Protagonist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Anyone care about character names?</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZ Protagonist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Anyone care about character names?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unknown Screenwriter has a post about character names. It basically goes on about advice for naming your characters. Here&#8217;s a few excerpts: &#8220;Naming characters is often a very personal thing with screenwritersâ€¦ Some writers give it SO MUCH THOUGHT that you can immediately pick that up when you read the script. Others seem to open up a random page from the phone book and simply pick a name. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unknown Screenwriter has a post about character names. It basically goes on about advice for naming your characters. Here&#8217;s a few excerpts: &#8220;Naming characters is often a very personal thing with screenwritersâ€¦ Some writers give it SO MUCH THOUGHT that you can immediately pick that up when you read the script. Others seem to open up a random page from the phone book and simply pick a name. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Unk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

You bring up a good point... Which is always an outstanding reason to have at least two or three people you trust to read/proofread your scripts.

Sometimes, you&#039;re so CLOSE to the writing and the story that to some, those oh so obvious elements are no longer obvious.

Unk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>You bring up a good point&#8230; Which is always an outstanding reason to have at least two or three people you trust to read/proofread your scripts.</p>
<p>Sometimes, you&#8217;re so CLOSE to the writing and the story that to some, those oh so obvious elements are no longer obvious.</p>
<p>Unk</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find character names to be the most fluid thing in my script.  I often change names as I find a better fit or possibly a symbolic-type name thatâ€™s not too over-the-top.  Iâ€™ve found this can be dangerous though if you do not edit with great care.  

I once changed a characterâ€™s name to JAKE, but must have had The Blues Brothers on my mind, because I inadvertently called the character ELWOOD several times.  I ultimately liked ELWOOD better and changed all of the JAKEs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find character names to be the most fluid thing in my script.  I often change names as I find a better fit or possibly a symbolic-type name thatâ€™s not too over-the-top.  Iâ€™ve found this can be dangerous though if you do not edit with great care.  </p>
<p>I once changed a characterâ€™s name to JAKE, but must have had The Blues Brothers on my mind, because I inadvertently called the character ELWOOD several times.  I ultimately liked ELWOOD better and changed all of the JAKEs.</p>
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		<title>By: Unk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like TORCILIOUS better. How about TORCIE for short?

Unk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like TORCILIOUS better. How about TORCIE for short?</p>
<p>Unk</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/give-it-a-name/screenwriting/2007/01/03/comment-page-1/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing this spec script, and I&#039;m going to call the main character Torcilious Meggamanny. What do you think? 

;-)

Just kidding. His name is Unk.

- E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing this spec script, and I&#8217;m going to call the main character Torcilious Meggamanny. What do you think? </p>
<p>;-)</p>
<p>Just kidding. His name is Unk.</p>
<p>- E.</p>
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		<title>By: Unk</title>
		<link>http://www.unknownscreenwriter.com/give-it-a-name/screenwriting/2007/01/03/comment-page-1/#comment-1633</link>
		<dc:creator>Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

It can absolutely work especially if you&#039;re making it part of the story in some way... Like in DIE HARD we saw two Agent Johnsons. The comedic effect was perfect...

MovieQuill/Todd,

What happens when you go to the pound and they ALL come crawling to you?

I just ask because it happens to me every time I go...

Unk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>It can absolutely work especially if you&#8217;re making it part of the story in some way&#8230; Like in DIE HARD we saw two Agent Johnsons. The comedic effect was perfect&#8230;</p>
<p>MovieQuill/Todd,</p>
<p>What happens when you go to the pound and they ALL come crawling to you?</p>
<p>I just ask because it happens to me every time I go&#8230;</p>
<p>Unk</p>
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		<title>By: Moviequill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moviequill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and use two Todds (I have a vested interest in the outcome as that is my name ha!)... anyways, for names I have been writing down all the spam junk mail names I get into a folder, then search through them and see if one jumps out at me... kind of like going to the pound and wait for the first one of the litter to crawl toward you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and use two Todds (I have a vested interest in the outcome as that is my name ha!)&#8230; anyways, for names I have been writing down all the spam junk mail names I get into a folder, then search through them and see if one jumps out at me&#8230; kind of like going to the pound and wait for the first one of the litter to crawl toward you</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can make two characters have the same name and it can work, but it definitely has to be a real choice (like the BOB&#039;S in OFFICE SPACE) with thought behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make two characters have the same name and it can work, but it definitely has to be a real choice (like the BOB&#8217;S in OFFICE SPACE) with thought behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Unk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

All I can say about having two characters with the same first name is that you might consider having some kind of reason for that otherwise, most professionals reading it are going to wonder and actually LOOK for that reason and if there is none, then they&#039;ll wonder why. I would never tell anyone NOT to do it -- just have a reason TO DO IT. You say that having the two Todds is crucial to the story so I&#039;m assuming there&#039;s a reason to do it that way... There&#039;s always exceptions for any type of guidelines...

Actors reading for FAT COP? Trust me, there would be a friggin&#039; line out the door of actors reading for such a part... But I was talking about even minor parts. Most of the people I know (myself included) would rather see a character name that gives us a visual image. A name like FAT COP tells us a couple of things... 1) The character is a fat cop. 2) It&#039;s obviously a minor part that we really do not have to concern ourselves with remembering much about except what happens right then and there with the character. When you give a minor character an actual first name or first and last name, we can&#039;t help but wonder how large a part this character has and we subconsciously search for him or her as we read on. Normally, when we see a character name that simply helps push an image into our mind&#039;s eye, we instinctively know that this is a minor character and probably a very short part.

Of course on the other hand, I&#039;ve read scripts where a major character was given a visual image character name instead of an actual name and even though it worked, since the character was a major character, I would have just as soon seen him given a real name... First. First and last. A nickname.

I guess what I&#039;m saying is that normally, we&#039;re used to seeing minor characters given names like COP #1, COP #2, FAT COP, VEGETARIAN COP, whatever... When we see that name, it&#039;s kind of a cue that tells us not to worry too much about that character as opposed to giving a very minor character a real name... When that happens, we instinctively wonder when that character will return. Needless to say... It&#039;s a thin line and we all have our preferences.

Webs,

No... the script with the alliteration had nothing to do with a comic book... If it had, that would have been fine... What it really comes down to is WHY include anything that MIGHT take a professional out of the story? Fine if there&#039;s a reason... Make sure it&#039;s CLEAR to whomever&#039;s going to read it. If there&#039;s no reason for it, why do it? Like I said in the post, I had to go back and see if there was something I missed. The names were so contrived that I couldn&#039;t help but think I missed the reason for it.

I didn&#039;t because it wasn&#039;t there... LOL.

Unk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>All I can say about having two characters with the same first name is that you might consider having some kind of reason for that otherwise, most professionals reading it are going to wonder and actually LOOK for that reason and if there is none, then they&#8217;ll wonder why. I would never tell anyone NOT to do it &#8212; just have a reason TO DO IT. You say that having the two Todds is crucial to the story so I&#8217;m assuming there&#8217;s a reason to do it that way&#8230; There&#8217;s always exceptions for any type of guidelines&#8230;</p>
<p>Actors reading for FAT COP? Trust me, there would be a friggin&#8217; line out the door of actors reading for such a part&#8230; But I was talking about even minor parts. Most of the people I know (myself included) would rather see a character name that gives us a visual image. A name like FAT COP tells us a couple of things&#8230; 1) The character is a fat cop. 2) It&#8217;s obviously a minor part that we really do not have to concern ourselves with remembering much about except what happens right then and there with the character. When you give a minor character an actual first name or first and last name, we can&#8217;t help but wonder how large a part this character has and we subconsciously search for him or her as we read on. Normally, when we see a character name that simply helps push an image into our mind&#8217;s eye, we instinctively know that this is a minor character and probably a very short part.</p>
<p>Of course on the other hand, I&#8217;ve read scripts where a major character was given a visual image character name instead of an actual name and even though it worked, since the character was a major character, I would have just as soon seen him given a real name&#8230; First. First and last. A nickname.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that normally, we&#8217;re used to seeing minor characters given names like COP #1, COP #2, FAT COP, VEGETARIAN COP, whatever&#8230; When we see that name, it&#8217;s kind of a cue that tells us not to worry too much about that character as opposed to giving a very minor character a real name&#8230; When that happens, we instinctively wonder when that character will return. Needless to say&#8230; It&#8217;s a thin line and we all have our preferences.</p>
<p>Webs,</p>
<p>No&#8230; the script with the alliteration had nothing to do with a comic book&#8230; If it had, that would have been fine&#8230; What it really comes down to is WHY include anything that MIGHT take a professional out of the story? Fine if there&#8217;s a reason&#8230; Make sure it&#8217;s CLEAR to whomever&#8217;s going to read it. If there&#8217;s no reason for it, why do it? Like I said in the post, I had to go back and see if there was something I missed. The names were so contrived that I couldn&#8217;t help but think I missed the reason for it.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t because it wasn&#8217;t there&#8230; LOL.</p>
<p>Unk</p>
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